Rebuke to "Reader": It's Time to Flip Some Tables
This post will address a readers accusations. There is a response from both Witness 1 and Witness 2, so please read the whole thing.
Hello everyone,
We just received a message from a "reader" (someone who came across our site one time, didn't even explore our works, and then proceeded to write us a rude and threatening message), so that is why I put "reader" in quotes.
Instead of wasting our energy in a back and forth conversation with them, we decided to just post their message and reply to and rebuke the reader. We also say a prayer of "fire" upon them if they do not repent at the end of this post.
Why should they repent? Well, I'll explain why in this rebuttal. Before I do, readers, please remember that in order to keep this site alive, we need your support.
Support can mean prayers, joining our fasts, joining our email list, sharing your testimony, or even donating to our efforts. You see, the money that is donated to us is used for our ministry in nearly every regard. We are spreading the truth to all in these end times. $5 - $10 can feed a family or buy a Bible for someone. We are the only ones who speak the FULL truth, and that's why "they" want to shut us down.
In other words, please back up what we are doing. If you want sites like ours to stick around, then show us that. Otherwise, we will move in a different direction and this site may not succeed.
Let's not let Satan win. As far as I know, we are one of the few sites out there saying what we're saying. Most ministries beat around the bush about nearly every topic, and I don't see them putting the amount of effort in supporting people like we do. I really don't, and I don't think you do either.
That doesn't mean that all ministries are bad, but if you are going to support anyone, please support us!
Alright, I'll stop the pleading for now, but let's get to the email. This was what was written, but I am blocking out the name.
Hello,
my Name is *, im 21 and Im from Germany. My native language is not English, so please dont mind me wrong for my spelling.
The reason I write to you, is way more than just to talk. The reason I write to you is not just to warn you, the reason I write you both is, that you, both of you, or how many people you might be behind these website, you should be ashamed from the bottom of your heart. No, im not against God, no im not against Christianity, I am a believer, I follow Jesus Christ, he is my saviour and redeemer. But you, you are far away from him. Im not the type of person who send these type of messages, but I cant live without sending you these words.
Response: So, this person immediately starts with an attack. They claim to be a believer, yet I do not see any love in the way they write. We get plenty of people who disagree with us who are respectful and kind. Further, a lot of people claim to be believers of Jesus Christ, yet their hearts are far from Him. No, I'm not impressed when someone says they are a "believer." I would like to see their fruits, and so far, this person seems incredibly rude.
First: Do you guys even know, that u use a wrong scripture? Do you guys even know, that you have blood and your hands, cus u lead so many people to darkness and mock Gods name, using wrong pictures of Christ, and call yourself two ''witnesses''.
Response: In a moment, I will address the "wrong" scripture, as she specifies more in the next point. As for the pictures we use, no one knows what Jesus really looks like, and his appearance is barely noted in the Bible. He was an "average looking-man" who didn't stand out in any unique way at the time. The pictures we use are generally just pictures Witness 1 and I like. We have had no critique of our picture choices until now, which we find to be a petty argument. 2 Timothy 2:23 says, "Don’t have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels."
This is a typical "Pharisee-esque" behavior. Instead of discussing real and fundamental issues with us like 9/11, vaccines, or the end of the world, this person is literally picking apart pictures that we use. So, I would like someone to send me an "authentic" or "right" picture of Jesus Christ, and then we will post it.
Finally, by all intents and purposes, we are witnesses of the end times. Really, anyone who can see what's happening now and not dig their head in the sand is a "witness" to these times.
Anyway, let's continue...
I tell you what, you both are a shame for the true living Christians. You use NIV - Did you know that NIV delete over 64,000 words, from the original copies, the Greek & the Hebrew textes? Did you know, they guy that published the NIV, his name was Harper Collins, he also published the satanic bible?
Response: Witness 1 and I use all translations of the Bible when writing. There are a few reasons for this. First, we do a lot of writing and sourcing. I don't know if anyone has ever tried to write an article like we write, but it is hard. When we link to every verse, sometimes, we are just moving quickly. Sometimes, I just look up "For God so loved the world..." on Google, and link the first translation that comes up. I figure readers are smart enough to look up the scripture themselves and compare translations. We assume most of our readers are intelligent, and we don't treat them like babies.
This time around, KJV came up for that verse, so that's what I linked to because it was fast. Now, the first Bible I ever read was NIV. I don't particularly like NIV or recommend it, but it helped me as a baby Christian who didn't understand anything about Christianity. It was a good start. The Bible I use now is ESV, but even that is flawed.
If you noticed in our writing, we do a lot of linking to Godrules concordance, so that we can investigate complex or controversial verses.
When it comes to common verses, we are less picky about which translation we use. Honestly, I have used NIV in our writings, and I usually do with simple verses that 99.9% of people agree upon.
There is no perfect translation of the Bible just as there is no "perfect" or "right" picture of Jesus Christ. The best thing to do is go back to a concordance and compare translations. We do that a lot, and if this person read our blog for more than one day, they would see that.
Next, we shouldn't become snobs. There may be people in the world who can only afford an NIV Bible, or there might be people who really struggle with KJV or other versions.
I believe when the Holy Spirit is with us as we read, it is difficult to be deceived.
With that being said, for avid Bible readers, we agree - try to avoid NIV. However, if you are using it, we aren't going to condemn you. That's ridiculous and another example of Pharisee-esque behavior.
This person is an example of a Pharisee. They want to nitpick our work and have not approached us in love. Who in the world are they bringing to Christ with this type of attitude?
Anyway, I say this to all: Read the Bible that helps you understand it well. Start somewhere.
For me, I started with NIV, and it helped me a lot. I saw the flaws in it, and I really like ESV, but there are flaws in that, too. So, I use the concordance when necessary.
For this woman, I recommend she learns Hebrew and Greek so she can make sure she gets the absolute perfect translation, and then, perhaps, she can analyze the Dead Sea Scrolls. : ) Maybe after she learns English fully.
God has written the law on our hearts, our consciousness, and even on our thoughts. If you notice in the link, many translations are shown. This is what I usually do.
But I ask readers to have grace and mercy upon us. We do our best to write well-written, compelling, and sourced work. Sometimes, we just have to work fast, and you may (gasp) have to deal with NIV.
Did you even know, SAIAH 14:12: The KJB reads, "How art thou fallen from heaven, O LUCIFER, son of the morning!..." The NIV PERversion reads, "How you have fallen from heaven, O MORNING STAR, son of the dawn..." The NIV change "Lucifer" to "MORNING STAR". Revelation 22:16 proclaims that Jesus is the MORNING STAR! This is a blasphemous error! And thats not everything, the name JEHOVA; the Hebrew Name of God, isnt even mentioned. Where is verse Matthew 18:11? And the other 16 missing verses, that change the completly meaning? What abt Genesis 1:1, did God created a lot of heavens, or ONE heaven? What abt Genesis 3:5, did the snake said ,,like Gods'' or ''like God''. And dont say, that wont matter.
There's a lot going on here, and it's hard to read. As this person criticizes us, they didn't take any time to check their grammar, spelling, or even use a translator. Look, I have nothing against anyone learning English as a second language, but before you send a critique to someone, you might want to double check your own skills in sourcing.
So they don't link to any verse, like we do. She is saying that the NIV mistranslates Isaiah 14:12, which I believe.
But here's the thing. I have never used NIV to link to that verse, so I have nothing to defend here. Neither of us have used it, and we have nothing to defend.
This person may be a Jehovah's Witness - I'm not sure, but yes, many of the Bibles do not use the term Jehovah.
I think God is called by many names, and we have consistently used YHWH in our blog, as we feel that is the most correct. Nobody really even knows how to pronounce YHWH truthfully - there is much controversy regarding this.
We do not get into the name debates. The name of Jesus Christ saved me, and that's the name that will save many others. Why would I use a different name than what saved me?
We aren't going to do that BS on this site. We aren't wasting time with Satan. As Jesus says, "Get thee behind me Satan."
With that being said, the important name is Jesus Christ, and by the way, His name may be pronounced differently in various languages and cultures. But Jesus knows who we are talking to and what's in our hearts at all times! The only way to the Father is Jesus Christ.
I feel the need to write you this. And maybe this is also a chance from God, to repent before its to late. I dont want to see your website with all these wrong informations anymore, I pray for that in Jesus Name to destory that and protect all the people who really want the truth and get confused because you spread so many lies and recommend false teachers. I wont stop, until your website is deleted, or you change your words. Its not too late to repent. If you dont believe, research for yourself. Harper Collins also published a gay sex book. NIV is demonic. Also NKJV youve been using, only KJV is the true translation, close to the original scriptures. I study abt it, I can tell yall things if you want to. Thats all I wanna say and needed to say, may God bless yall and open your eyes.
Response: No. YOU need to repent. You have let Satan work through you to write a disgusting message that is threatening and petty. This is America, and as far as I know (as of now) there are free speech laws that protect us. We have no idea what happens in Germany, but we believe in free speech - even of those who disagree with us.
No, not everyone agrees with us, and that's up to God to sort out. But your message was different. It was rude, angry, and completely un-Christ like in every way, which is why we are addressing it on the blog.
We have barely used NIV and we have never told anyone that is the Bible to use at all times. We treat our readers with respect and assume they know how to research and can compare verses and Bibles.
Most reading our site are aware of the Satanic attempt to distort words in the Bible, and we aren't here to baby them. Most who stumble upon our site already have great knowledge of these conspiracies, and we don't waste our time talking down to them.
So, here is my prayer.
Dear Father in Heaven,
I pray this person comes to repentance. If not, I pray fire upon them for threatening our website and wasting our time through the powerful name of Jesus Christ. We rebuke all threats in the name of Jesus Christ. We pray this reader comes to repentance and turns away from petty quarrels and arguments. I pray that this person never contacts us again (unless they repent), and if they contact us with more rude or threatening emails, I pray immediate fire upon them in Jesus's name.
That's it everyone. We don't have time for this crap. If you don't like our site, move along. There are tons of sites that will tell you what you want to hear and give you tons of sugar. We are here to give you the meat.
If you send us emails like this, assume they will be posted on the blog with a rebuke for thousands to see. That's your choice if you want to risk that.
At the same time, we just may not respond. Sometimes it's not worth it to cast pearls before swine.
For our true readers and supporters, we love you very much.
God bless you all in the name of Jesus Christ.
- Witness 2
Response from Witness 1
Well, that was quite an email. I can tell just from your lack of grammar and poor spelling that you're not much of a reader, so I doubt you'll even get this far and see this, but if so - congratulations! You sent the dumbest critique email we've ever gotten.
That's hard to do. Did you know that not one person has offered a real rebuttal to our writings? If you're going to send a rude email like this, at least put some effort into it. I'm pretty sure I could write a better rebuttal than this in about ten minutes. There are real, controversial things we talk about that you could have chosen to disagree with, but you picked the dumbest, most nonsensical arguments ever.
The "right" picture of Jesus? The "right" translation? 64,000 words out of the NIV?
For one thing, I don't even use NIV, so you're just wrong. I use ESV. On the other hand, you're just picking nonsensical arguments about translations and textual criticism methods, or words that don't fundamentally change the meaning or theology of the Bible. You're literally playing fairy tale semantic games about which text to use instead of arguing about the real content, which is a truly Pharisee-esque way to treat theology.
Arguing about Harper Collins is just nonsensical. This person comes across like a raving crackhead lunatic, shouting and ranting at the skies above, a lonely dead psychopath screaming into a reality that will just never conform to their delusions.
My advice to you is to straighten yourself out and stop worrying about things that don't matter. Start asking real questions: Did the US government facilitate 9/11? Are the Covid gene therapy injections the Mark of the Beast? These are the kind of topics we talk about here - we don't have time for your non-arguments and 6-year old level reasoning.
I suggest that you start at the beginning, because your worldview is rotten and will not support weight. You have been weighed and found wanting.
For those reading and to this person - threats will not be tolerated. We will not apologize for speaking the truth to power or to anyone else, no matter how mad it makes people.
Support us to hurt your enemies, readers - merely by existing we make the soldiers of darkness, evil, and iniquity seethe and lash out in hatred and anger.
Send stupid emails like this and you'll end up on the blog. Be careful!
- Witness 1